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Subject: Re: [PATCH] blk-mq: Wait for for hctx inflight requests on CPU unplug
To: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
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On 5/22/19 11:06 AM, John Garry wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +static int blk_mq_hctx_notify_prepare(unsigned int cpu, struct
>>>> hlist_node *node)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    struct blk_mq_hw_ctx    *hctx;
>>>> +    struct blk_mq_tags    *tags;
>>>> +
>>>> +    hctx = hlist_entry_safe(node, struct blk_mq_hw_ctx, cpuhp_dead);
>>>> +    tags = hctx->tags;
>>>> +
>>>> +    if (tags)
>>>> +        clear_bit(BLK_MQ_TAGS_DRAINED, &tags->flags);
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Hi Ming,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the effort here.
>>>
>>> I would like to make an assertion on a related topic, which I hope
>>> you can
>>> comment on:
>>>
>>> For this drain mechanism to work, the blk_mq_hw_ctxs (and related cpu
>>> masks) for a request queue are required to match the hw queues used
>>> in the
>>> LLDD (if using managed interrupts).
>>>
>>> In others words, a SCSI LLDD needs to expose all hw queues for this
>>> to work.
>>>
More importantly, the SCSI LLDD needs to be _able_ to expose one hw
queue per CPU.
Which cannot be taken for granted; especially in larger machines it's
relatively easy to have more CPUs than MSI-X vectores...
>>> The reason I say this is because if the LLDD does not expose the hw
>>> queues
>>> and manages them internally - as some SCSI LLDDs do - yet uses managed
>>> interrupts to spread the hw queue MSI vectors across all CPUs, then
>>> we still
>>> only have a single blk_mq_hw_ctx per rq with a cpumask covering all
>>> cpus,
>>> which is not what we would want.
>>
>
> Hi Ming,
>
>> Good catch!
>>
>> This drain mechanism won't address the issue for these SCSI LLDDs in
>> which:
>>
>>     1) blk_mq_hw_ctx serves as submission hw queue
>>
>>     2) one private reply queue serves as completion queue, for which one
>>     MSI vector with cpumask is setup via
>> pci_alloc_irq_vectors_affinity(PCI_IRQ_AFFINITY).
>>
>> What we should only drain is the completion queue if all its mapped
>> CPUs are offline.
>>
Hmm. That's a very unusual setup. Typically it's the other way round;
SCSI LLDDs have several completion queues (as these are mapped to MSI-X
vectors), but only one submission queue.
(Classical examples are mptsas, megaraid_sas, aacraid, and hpsa)
But I still do think we need to handle this case; the HBA might not
expose enough MSI-X vectors/hw queues for us to map to all CPUs.
In which case we'd be running into the same situation.
And I do think we _need_ to drain the associated completion queue as
soon as _any_ CPU in that set it plugged; otherwise we can't ensure that
any interrupt for pending I/O will _not_ arrive at the dead CPU.
And yes, this would amount to quiesce the HBA completely if only one
queue is exposed. But there's no way around this; the alternative would
be to code a fallback patch in each driver to catch missing completions.
Which would actually be an interface change, requiring each vendor /
maintainer to change their driver. Not very nice.
>> Looks you suggest to expose all completion(reply) queues as 'struct
>> blk_mq_hw_ctx',
>> which may involve in another more hard problem:  how to split the single
>> hostwide tags into each reply queue.
>
> Yes, and this is what I expecting to hear Re. hostwide tags.
>
But this case is handled already; things like lpfc and qla2xxx have been
converted to this model (exposing all hw queues, and use a host-wide
tagmap).
So from that side there is not really an issue.
I even provided patchset to convert megaraid_sas (cf 'megaraid_sas:
enable blk-mq for fusion'); you might want to have a look there to see
how it can be done.
> I'd rather not work towards that
>> direction because:
>>
>> 1) it is very hard to partition global resources into several parts,
>> especially it is hard to make every part happy.
>>
>> 2) sbitmap is smart/efficient enough for this global allocation
>>
>> 3) no obvious improvement is obtained from the resource partition,
>> according
>> to previous experiment result done by Kashyap.
>
> I'd like to also do the test.
>
> However I would need to forward port the patchset, which no longer
> cleanly applies (I was referring to this
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20180205152035.15016-1-ming.lei@redhat.com/).
> Any help with that would be appreciated.
>
If you would post it on the mailing list (or send it to me) I can have a
look. Converting SAS is on my list of things to do, anyway.
>>
>> I think we could implement the drain mechanism in the following way:
>>
>> 1) if 'struct blk_mq_hw_ctx' serves as completion queue, use the
>> approach in the patch
>
> Maybe the gain of exposing multiple queues+managed interrupts outweighs
> the loss in the LLDD of having to generate this unique tag with sbitmap;
> I know that we did not use sbitmap ever in the LLDD for generating the
> tag when testing previously. However I'm still not too hopeful.
>
Thing is, the tag _is_ already generated by the time the command is
passed to the LLDD. So there is no overhead; you just need to establish
a 1:1 mapping between SCSI cmds from the midlayer and your internal
commands.
Which is where the problem starts: if you have to use the same command
pool for internal commands you have to set some tags aside to avoid a
clash with the tags generated from the block layer.
That's easily done, but if you do that quiescing is getting harder, as
then the block layer wouldn't know about these internal commands.
This is what I'm trying to address with my patchset to use private tags
in SCSI, as then the block layer maintains all tags, and is able to
figure out if the queue really is quiesced.
(And I really need to post my patchset).
>>
>> 2) otherwise:
>> - introduce one callbcack of .prep_queue_dead(hctx, down_cpu) to
>> 'struct blk_mq_ops'
>
> This would not be allowed to block, right?
>
>>
>> - call .prep_queue_dead from blk_mq_hctx_notify_dead()
>>
>> 3) inside .prep_queue_dead():
>> - the driver checks if all mapped CPU on the completion queue is offline
>> - if yes, wait for in-flight requests originated from all CPUs mapped to
>> this completion queue, and it can be implemented as one block layer API
>
> That could work. However I think that someone may ask why the LLDD just
> doesn't register for the CPU hotplug event itself (which I would really
> rather avoid), instead of being relayed the info from the block layer.
>
Again; what would you do if not all CPUs from a pool are gone?
You still might be getting interrupts for non-associated interrupts, and
quite some drivers are unhappy under these circumstances.
Hence I guess it'll be better to quiesce the queue as soon as _any_ CPU
from the pool is gone.
Plus we could be doing this from the block layer without any callbacks
from the driver...
Cheers,
Hannes
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